What if your heart was designed to experience God—not just know about Him? 
Brandon welcomes certified Heart Physics coach Jennifer Johnson back to Unrefined for a practical conversation about moving from fear to faith and from simply knowing biblical truth intellectually to actually believing and living from it in the heart. Jennifer shares personal stories involving fear, relationships, forgiveness, family struggles, healing, and the hidden beliefs that can quietly shape our reactions and circumstances. Together they explore how repeated thoughts and emotions persuade the heart, why circumstances often expose what we genuinely believe, and how renewing the mind becomes an intentional process of gathering new evidence around the truth of God’s Word. They also unpack Dr. Jim Richards’ Heart Physics approach, including Essential Heart Physics, relaxation, meditation, the “secret place,” community, and learning to encounter God at the heart level. The central challenge is simple but profound: we are always persuading our hearts of something—so what are we persuading them to believe?

Monday Meditation with Jennifer on zoom (free) @11am CST Monday's

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Timestamps

00:00:04 – How Do You Persuade Your Heart?
00:00:41 – Welcome Back Jennifer Johnson
00:02:00 – From Fear to Faith
00:05:20 – Building an Illusion & Gathering Evidence
00:07:40 – How Thoughts Become Heart Beliefs
00:10:03 – Forgiveness: Head Knowledge vs. Heart Knowledge
00:12:21 – Sending Away the Pain
00:14:42 – When “Fear Not” Becomes Real
00:17:03 – Trusting God With Your Children
00:19:15 – When God Exposes What the Heart Really Believes
00:21:38 – Getting Real With God Without Shame
00:24:05 – Brandon’s Journey Out of Religiosity
00:26:17 – What Does It Mean to Persuade Your Heart?
00:28:44 – How One Thought Becomes a Train of Thoughts
00:31:07 – Religious Worrying & Collecting Evidence Against God
00:33:10 – Mental Assent vs. Genuine Heart Belief
00:35:24 – Healing, Pain & “Help My Unbelief”
00:37:49 – Renewing the Mind Thought by Thought
00:40:06 – Transformation Takes Effort
00:42:30 – Secondary Gain & Hidden Heart Beliefs
00:44:53 – You’re Always Persuading Your Heart
00:47:16 – When Your First Reaction Begins to Change
00:48:00 – What Is Heart Physics?
00:49:26 – Essential Heart Physics & Heart Work
00:51:44 – Why Essential Heart Physics Comes First
00:54:03 – The Secret Place & Experiencing God
00:56:06 – Jennifer’s Final Challenge & Prayer